Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Are we talking teams back again?
Yeah, back again.
It is, what, week 13, week 14.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: In NFL, something like that, you know, I don't know. With JD Fat or whatever playing. I don't know. But go ahead.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: Another week in the NFL, a new week, sports and another show podcast for. Let's be clear. It's your man, DJ Motorman, my dog.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: Pizzle, and you know this man.
[00:00:40] Speaker A: And we got. We got a plethora of things that we want to talk about this week.
Starting out with America's team. Or can we stop saying, man, can.
[00:00:54] Speaker B: We stop saying that? They ain't America's team.
These ain't one shit we already know they ain't.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: But I love to say it because their fans think they are.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: I was 10 years old the last time these won something. I'm 40 years. I'm about to be 41. This team, you don't get the out of here. Nothing say America, y'all stadium can't even hold up. That was just built falling down like Mike Tyson's back pockets. Get out of here.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: So we might as well start there.
The Cowboys downfall. Where do they go from here?
They didn't lost to the Texans last night. 34, 10.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: They gonna win Sunday, though.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: No, don't say that.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Here we go. Didn't I say that about the Eagles? You told me ain't no way y'all gonna punish the Eagles.
[00:01:49] Speaker A: The Eagles are a good team, bro. Dallas State inks we're not good right now.
[00:01:55] Speaker B: JD5 is hurt. We talking about the Cowboys, but go ahead. The. Their downfall started. Ah.
When. When their defense started getting hurt. And then, you know, when Dak went out, that was it. That was. That was wrapping up me. And then you realized Dak ain't trying to come back. Dak went to the doctor like we do. When you go to urgent care. Urgent kid know why you there. You try and get that month. You come on Thursday, you try and get that joke for Thursday and Friday had that long weekend. So Doc went to. I mean, Doc went to his doctor and said, hey, something just ain't right with my stuff, man. He went from being out for a couple weeks to the whole season. Dak knew what he was doing. He knew what he was doing.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: Yeah, he.
He was seen on TV on the sideline when he got hurt, saying that they suck.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: What he said we asked or something like that.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I think it was at that moment when he figured out, listen, man, my season's over. Why should I come back or rush back to a team where you Know, guys don't look like they want to play during a division that, you know, besides, usually one team playing as well as the Commanders have and as well as the Eagles have this season, usually that's a winnable division.
But it looks very unwinnable for the Dallas Cowboys, and I just feel like going forward.
But they might as well go ahead and fire their coach, go ahead and get rid of McCarthy, because it's evident that players on that team don't respect them anymore.
And then, you know, what are you waiting for, really? We know that his contract's up, so at the end of the season, he probably won't be coming back. So, you know, you guys don't have any playoff hopes.
You know, your quarterback's done for the year. You just gave him a bunch of money to watch the game from the press box.
You know, I don't. I don't really see any other reason for them to still invest all of their time and money into this season. I'm not saying they shut it down because, I mean, they can't, but they should start looking towards next year. And I think their first move, which would be their best move, would be to get rid of Mike McCarthy and start looking towards a new head coach.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: Now, I'm not saying you. I'm just saying in. In. In. In life, and most times in life, right, if someone gets fired, what does the company wait for?
[00:04:41] Speaker A: You said, someone gets fired, what does the company do?
[00:04:44] Speaker B: What do they wait for? The end of the day, they let your ass work that whole day, and then they fire your ass. Then they fire your ass. You gonna work this whole goddamn season. You. You. You gonna work this season, and then I'ma fire your ass. Don't think you. Yeah, don't think I'm gonna sit through Cooper Rush without your ass. No. You go sit here and watch this. Just like me, Trey. Lance that ain't played more than five games in five seasons. If you don't get the hell up out of here. No, you gonna sit here and watch this. You helped me build it. You told me who to go get and talk to me about this, that and the third. We ain't even got a second goddamn receiver. I couldn't even tell you the name of goddamn Never Receiver on Dallas besides cd.
Cd. Tyrannosaurus Rec. Mouth Lamb. That mouth was big as when he was next to that white girl. When she tried to take his phone, he looked like that. Say, got him. Go. Go back and look at that. CD Lime was terrible. He got the boy. But, hey, that mother catch that ball, though.
God damn right. I went to Columbia, too. Not just for my. Well, for my mouthpiece and for the mouthpiece, but anyway. Yeah, McCarthy gonna watch the end this now. You gonna sit there good, buddy.
No, I'm gonna watch you watch this animal fire your ass. And then you know what it is? Everybody talking about they going to get Dion. Dion leave Colorado. He a damn fool.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think. I mean, personally, I don't think he leaves college football.
And if he does, I don't think it would be next year.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: Colorado gonna offer Dion whatever the hell, man. They got every seat food. And you know, I ain't the biggest, you know, Dion up with me. But hey, what he doing up there is crazy. Every seat full, man. The years before that, you get a Colorado ticket for a. A Hot Pocket and a half a Slurpee.
Now the four or five, six me, he better not leave from Colorado now. He gonna let your door go to Dallas, though. He gonna let your door do that.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: Well, I don't even know if Dallas will. Well, yeah, I mean, at this point. But that brings me to a point that we'll touch on later. I don't think they're gonna win Sunday, so I. I really don't see how, you know, it would. That. That's one of the things I think it would be in their best interest to get Tank. Like, what are you winning or what are you trying to win games for? You guys sting.
So why not go ahead, Like I said, plan for the future. Plan to get a higher draft pick so you can actually draft. Because, I mean, as much as they do stink, they do draft pretty well.
But you know what happens after that? Drafting is really where they, you know, stink the most. But you get rid of your coach, you get a high draft pick, and then you can possibly go out and get a guy like Shador Sanders or a Cam Ward or maybe even yours from Texas, which in my opinion probably would be something that he would go after. A Texas bred quarterback who's actually not the best quarterback in the draft, but you know, Dallas would love him because he's. He's right there in the hometown.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: I hear normally. What you saying he ain't taking him over Shador, though.
[00:08:30] Speaker A: I don't think so either.
I think him and Cam Ward. I think Cam War has something to say about where Shador goes.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: Who, Cam Ward?
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
All right.
[00:08:49] Speaker A: Let'S move on to breaking down the NFL playoff picture. So in the AFC right now, the Chiefs are the top dogs, even after losing to the Bills, the Chiefs are still 9 and 1. The Bills are ranked second behind the Chiefs with the Steelers coming in at number three, the Texans at number four, the Chargers, Ravens and Broncos edging out those wild card positions. And then in the nfc, we have the Lions at number one, the Eagles at number two, the Cardinals at number three, the Falcons at four, the Vikings, packers and Commanders edging out those last three wild card spots. So let's start with the nfc.
How do you see this playoff picture coming about?
[00:09:46] Speaker B: I really don't see too much changing. For real. I see. Yeah, I really don't see too much changing. The Cardinals on a nice little. Nice little move. Falcons. You know, the other thing is you Falcons, you don't know what team you gonna get every week.
It's like they done fell into something a little different. Kirk struggling a little bit.
Well, they. I think they struggling a little to block for him too. On the Vikings got their ups and downs, but I. I don't see the packers getting to them. So I really just see it kind of playing out how it is. Not a. Commanders. I'm not. I mean, I know in our last part, I was. I was half heartedly joking, but being serious about J.D. favors MVP, I mean, he could. That is over with.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: I mean, that dude, man, tell him how you feel. Pizzle. Tell them how you feel.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: He is reading one side of the field and he can't run right now. I might be able to get him in the race right now. I don't know what's going on.
It's. It's. He's playing bad, man. He's playing bad the last couple. I mean, everybody talked this down the third if, if we didn't get a lucky miracle against the Bears. We're 2 and 4 in the last six games.
[00:10:58] Speaker A: Damn.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: 2, 2 and 4.
[00:11:01] Speaker A: We talking hypotheticals now.
I mean, y'all. Y'all just lost back to back, but y'all ain't terrible. Y'all still got seven wins.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: I mean, we was seven and two.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Well, you don't. Commanders.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: And like I said, if we don't get America, we got a miracle.
A miracle to beat the Bears.
The Bears. It took America. We'd have been good. To be honest, we'd have been. Oh, my God, the Bears stink. How many games Bears.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: They do stink. But I'm saying their defense is pretty good.
Hey, well, I mean, look how they played the packers last week. The packers had to win by America too.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: How they. How's they. How's they offense Ass. Yeah. Thank you. We almost lost to a dude that paint his nail. So anyway, we. I. I'm not. I'm not. This is what I'm saying about J.D. fast. He's hurt. They trying to mash that he's hurt. That's what I'm really getting on with him is let that. If they. If they to let him rest. Just. Just say last game and we throw out Maria Mariota. However you say his name, he'd have had almost 25 days to heal or something like that. 20 days to heal up.
We gonna rush them out there. Then you do dumb, like don't kick the field goal.
Then you can go up by one. And you call a dumb ass quarterback sneak. I'm sorry. Quarterback draw on four. On third and two. Don't get. Because he can't run. He just curled up. He curled up like a. Like a. Like a knew they was about to get hit and can't beat the. He just curl up in the fetal position and take your ass whooping. That's what he did. And then we go forward on fourth and two. Come on, man. Instead of kicking the field goal. We know. We know what time it is, man. Come on, bro. He's hurt. Just get it. Just make sure he's all right. Then he go on stage with Wale.
Come on.
[00:13:08] Speaker A: I did see that.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: Come on, man. Then he looked goofy up there. He can't even dance.
[00:13:13] Speaker A: What?
[00:13:13] Speaker B: Young, you know, can't dance. They grew up in the dancing era. Everything is a dance. Tik Tok this. Oh, man, I don't even want to get started.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: So. No. Basically you saying you don't really see.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Any movement until he healthy. Until he healthy.
[00:13:30] Speaker A: Well, what about edging out the Packers? You guys are only behind them.
And the standings for the playoff position.
I mean, when we talking about. Talking about the division that. That the Commanders are in, you have the Eagles who are at the top, that y'all have one L2, and then you have Dallas.
I mean, what's not to make up there? Like I see. I honestly see the Commanders being able to get possibly out of that seventh spot into maybe a six or five position if they could just take care of business in the division.
[00:14:16] Speaker B: I hope you're right. I hope you're right. I just don't see it from what we've been playing like the last couple weeks. Well, actually, we played pretty good against y'all, and I ain't even get started on how I feel about the Pittsburgh game, but we played all right against y'all. But that that we did with the, with the Eagles. I mean, yeah, people say what they want, boy, and we just. He. He looked like trash. In particular, did the fact that McLaren only had two targets.
[00:14:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know what that was.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: About after the way he dogged Porter.
Porter looked like a high school DB out there. All right.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: Not too much on my boy.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Did he not? You said the same.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Damn, he was getting cooked. He was.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: He looked like a sex slave out there.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta defend my boy a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Hold on. I lost you for a second. What'd you say?
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Nah, I just said he looked like a sex slave out there, man. But, but, but, but. I mean, maybe, maybe Dallas is what we needed. And I just hope Michael Parsons don't. Don't go in there and do nothing too crazy. That's who really worries me. But other than that, we could possibly make up. I say make up a spot maybe. I don't know. The packers playing pretty good, though.
[00:15:36] Speaker A: The packers are playing pretty good, but.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: I mean, the Vikings on job like a little Sam Donald coming. He's coming back to earth. Pause a little bit.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: Y'all still three and two in your last five. I mean, and Dallas is coming off of a terrible performance. I don't, I don't understand why you think y'all would lose to them. I mean, even if JD5 is still hurt and some, somehow, some way he makes it through this Dallas game without being more injured, I don't see how you guys don't come out with the win against Dallas. But that's just me. And then, you know, looking at the rest of y'all schedule, you have what, Dallas, Tennessee, New Orleans, Philly and Atlanta, your next five games. I mean, I'm looking at like, at least y'all going 4 and 1 at the worst, 3 and 2 in his next five. And y'all were in the season with Dallas. I mean, you get, you get a second crack at Philly. Pause.
You know, the Titans aren't a good team. New Orleans really not a good team. And Atlanta, like you said, that's a team. That's a team that, you know, you don't know which team. Team you're gonna get.
[00:16:54] Speaker B: New Orleans Gonna put up 365 yards of offense against us?
[00:16:59] Speaker A: The hell no. Woohoo. They only even got nobody taste some hill.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Yeah, what he do? He went monkey. He went monkey this weekend, didn't he?
[00:17:08] Speaker A: That was against the Browns. And they're.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: They're dreaded their Defense might be better.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: They're dreadful.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Here we go.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: Don't make no excuses for them. That team, they're. They're dreadful.
[00:17:17] Speaker B: You just hate the Browns.
[00:17:19] Speaker A: I do, but I'm just saying.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: You ever heard. You was around when that song came out called welcome to D.C.
yeah. Yeah. Well, here we are mentally, physically and emotionally scarred until it is that. We're not scarred, sir. So until further notice, until we see something different, it is going to be the same old. We've lost to Cooper Rush before. We know what it's like.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, look, I. I feel for you too, because we lost to this Dallas team with Dak early in the season, and every time I see them lose, it pisses me off all over again because it's like this.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Well, that's not. That wasn't a bad loss, though. The Cowboys was all right at that time.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Yeah, but they. They still. They still are a bad team.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: I told you I ain't gonna do that.
[00:18:08] Speaker A: Of course we should have won that game. It wasn't like the luckiest team.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: Y'all. The luckiest team in the NFL. The is gonna run out in the playoffs anyway. I'm not getting into it. You keep. You want me to go there? I'm not gonna go there. Yeah, school.
[00:18:24] Speaker A: Because we gotta go into the AFC.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: We gotta go into the A1 here. None of that. Y'all select that camel that the rabbit foot gonna come out y'all ass eventually. Y'all keep sneaking away with these goddamn games, y'all gonna end up just like defense, bro. Not defense.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Some shit, bro. You see what we just did to one of the highest scoring offensive teams in the league right there.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: I wasn't impressed with y'all defense when y'all.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: They couldn't do.
[00:18:52] Speaker B: I could. I would.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: To the point where they start second guessing themselves. They ran a power option with no options with. With Lamar Jackson. And usually that's enough to scare, but not against us. We've shown them out of six games that he's played, he been here longer than that. Six games that he's played. He's only beat us once. So what? Nobody scared of the big bad wolf. When it came to the highest scoring offensive team in the league, Lamar Jackson, MVP or mvp, whatever you want to call him, he wasn't coming here with that bullshit. And we showed it. I mean, look, they put Derrick Henry in that back Bills single back and decided, oh, we ain't gonna block T.J. wyatt. What he do? Put him on his ass. And yeah, our offense couldn't get it together this week. What do we do? Boswell kick the. Out of the ball.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: So TJ that ain't luck. TJ Was still play. He still plays defense.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: Come on, man. I asked a better question than that.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: Even though he was still in the way, he played against the Commanders. I ain't. I ain't. I know he was still.
[00:19:58] Speaker A: You know why he played like that against the Commanders? Y'all put a straight jacket on him.
Hey, it was a. Y'all had a whole detail to make sure that he was chipped before he was chipped and after he was chipped.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: That's called smart football, sir. That's what you call that, Smart football. I did that in high school. We did that in high school against a little fellow named Darnell Dockett. We had docket, counter, docket, docket, catch. We had docket. And we had his own plays. The whole.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: Hey, that's. That is smart football. If you can. If you can neutralize the game record and then you doing something right, you know, fate just wasn't on your side. We're staying ready on the defensive end. That rook, somebody got to coach his ass up and start telling him to stop jumping at, you know, the hard cadence.
But we'll go. We'll talk about the AFC since we're on with the Chiefs at the top. The Bills, Steelers, Texans, Chargers, Ravens, Broncos. You see any movement with that by the season and.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: Well, the Texans going to win their division. Maybe the Ravens getting the Chargers.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Because Texans basically would win their division.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So they gonna get that anyway. I just don't know if the Bills can walk, Casey.
[00:21:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I know.
You know, historically, the Bills are regular season champions, and then when it comes to the postseason, the Chiefs kick their ass.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Bills. Bills build a little different this year, though. But I don't know. We'll see. They're not attending. Until you really see it, you don't know what to believe with them. Y'all gonna stay where y'all at? Yeah, I mean, I see it playing out pretty much how it is. I mean, I might see the Ravens getting the Chargers.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: I like that. I feel like Chiefs are pretty much set. I do feel like the season, with our schedule, the Steelers schedule, is trending in the direction that the Steelers could possibly be playing on Christmas for the biggest gift of all, and that's home field advantage and possibly a first round buy. Because if let's. Let's take your words for it. If we keep our rabbit's foot in our back pocket and do not lose until we see the Chiefs, that could possibly be a game for the person but number one seed in amc. Now, worst case scenario, I'm thinking because we mostly AFC north teams that we have to face, we do play the Eagles before the Chiefs. I could see us possibly moving down a little bit. I don't see us moving down under the Texans. I mean, I think maybe another loss or two might not fare well for us in the standings.
I do think the Ravens will upend the Chargers and it'll be, you know, kind of close again in the AFC North. The Broncos, I think, have one of the easier schedules, so I don't really see any movement with them. As long as they can win out, they should possibly get that last wild card spot. But Ravens charges a Monday night, so that's playoff implications right there and then, you know, I really don't see anybody catching the Chiefs. The Bills and the Steelers are the closest to that. You know, the schedules just don't line up for that to happen, in my opinion. Now we're trending towards it, but I don't. I don't. It would be hard pressed to say that we would go undefeated until Christmas.
It's just too many games. Like we played Thursday night. That's a trap game. Thursday night in Cleveland, that's a trap game.
[00:24:14] Speaker B: Now you just told me Cleveland is hot garbage.
[00:24:18] Speaker A: They are, but I'm a trap game. The same way you just said y'all would lose to the Cowboys. They're terrible. It's a conference game, it's a division game. You know, divisional teams see each other more than once, so they know more about.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: Cowboys have a history of beating us. It's not the same way, but they're ass.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: They're not. They're not the Cowboys that beat 34 points last season.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Season before. Anytime Cooper rushes in, that should be a W. I don't give a who what team it is.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: It should be. And. And. And this weekend, I think it'll be no different. I think y'all will get that.
[00:24:55] Speaker B: Well, I'll be there, so I'll be the judge of this.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: All right, so since we talking about the commanders, let's talk about offensive rookie of the year.
Do you think it will be Bo Nicks or do you think it will be JD5? And just to throw out. Just to throw out some stats for you, they're currently kind of neck and neck. They're by each other in the stats.
Dayton Daniels is 23, 38 passing yards. Bo Nicks has 22, 75. Jaden Daniels with the better yards per attempt with 8. Bo Nicks with 6.4. Bo Nicks has thrown the ball more times with 357 attempts.
And Jaden Daniels has the better completion percentage. It fizzled down from his whopping 80% down to a 68.7. Bo Nicks has more touchdowns at 14, but Jaden Daniels has the least amount of interceptions with three with the higher QB rating of 99.6. What say you on the offensive rookie of the year?
Yeah, I mean, who do you. Who do you think is going to win it? Not even just right now. Who you think is going to win it?
[00:26:19] Speaker B: I mean, this. I mean, this. This is easy. If.
If my man back in, what, 91 didn't hurt itself, he'd have been the greatest running back of all time.
Mr. Jackson, that is. We gonna go with Bo next. It's not even close. Bo is playing way better than Jaden Daniels right now. It's not even close. Next is the. The offensive player of the year.
[00:26:44] Speaker A: Damn, you can't even back your man on this.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: I ain't say offensive player, rookie.
Yeah, yeah. I mean. I mean to say that because the might take it the wrong way, but. No, no, Jaden, Jaden, it's been terrible, terrible.
If. If Murriotters and we beat either Pittsburgh or we. Honestly, Honestly, Pittsburgh game might go the same way. If. If he's in. We beat the Eagles.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: You felt like. Oh, yeah, because I was about to say you felt like that in a Pittsburgh game. He played well. I mean, he didn't play. He didn't play well the whole game, but he played. Your man McLaurin torched, you know, half that damn game. So I feel like that was partly.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: Because he played better in the Pittsburgh game. I don't know if y'all heard him. I re. Heard him. He played better in the Pittsburgh game than he did the Philly game. The Philly game. Listen, we was up seven to three. So long. I mean, we had so many opportunities. This was throwing at people's legs. I mean, he. He was terrible.
Terrible.
[00:27:51] Speaker A: He could.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: I mean, every time he go to the bench, they putting something on his rib and doing this that. I mean, it's. Get him the. Out of there. You gotta do all that. Get him out and don't play until he healthy.
Come on, man. I can see why Dan Quinn blew the Super Bowl.
[00:28:09] Speaker A: I blame. I blame.
I blame the coaching, too. I mean, I think that you gotta be more aware of your star player, especially when at the quarterback position.
But I'm gonna actually go with J.D. badmore on the office of Rookie of the Year. I don't.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: You just trying to get under my skin. Go ahead.
[00:28:30] Speaker A: I don't think.
Well, for one, I'm not really a fan of Bo Nicks either. So, you know, I'm hating a little bit the fact that he's playing. He's playing. I know he's like 40 years old. I'm hating a little bit at the fact that he's playing so well now.
But I'm not surprised because, you know, as much as I like to take shots at Sean Payton, you know, the guy is an offensive guru.
And you know, that team wasn't horrible. I mean, you seen what they were, what they looked like in the beginning of last season versus what they looked like at the end of last season with quote unquote declining Russell Wilson. So I think adding Bo Nixon, you know, gave that locker room some life. On the offensive side, I do see them playing better offensively, but like, I'm not really sold on that four touchdown performance he had last week against Atlanta. That doesn't, that doesn't necessarily point towards him trending up as a 3 to 4 touchdown guy every week. I mean, you know, I don't think, I do think he's, he's evolving as a pass thrower, but I think with the way the season should play out, I think Jaden Daniels will solidify the Rookie of the Year offensively because who he'll have to be and the teams that he'll, he'll be playing. You know, like I said, you guys see the Eagles again, whether or not you win that second game doesn't necessarily matter if he plays well as far as this, this, this ACT award goes. And then, you know, like I said, you guys have the Titans, you have the Saints, you have the Cowboys this week. Like, come on, man.
I really think this goes to Jaden Daniels in the end. But you know, he's got, he's got to get the pads off of, off of his ribs, man.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: They gotta start going back to spreading the ball around and getting everybody involved. It's like he looking for one or two and then that's it. Our best. We didn't have a wide receiver catch the ball until the third quarter.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Yeah, and that can't happen.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: Our best player was Austin Eckler.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: Yeah, he was, he was running like a man possessed. So since we're, since we're, you know, talking about this, how do the Commanders get back on track? You know, coming off the back to back losses, JD5 playing hurt. And then, you know, you guys have, I think, rank on the. I think it was a sharp. I forget where I got this information. I'll update that later. But rank 28.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Shot from 22. Java.
[00:31:39] Speaker A: No, it's the Sharks website for. For better.
For better. So you guys were ranked 28th in strength of schedule with the Falcons and the Eagles being your toughest remaining games. And then the Titans, the Cowboys, and the Saints left being the easiest opponents you have left. How do you see the commanders getting back on track if we're going offensive?
[00:32:09] Speaker B: I actually. No bullshit. I actually think defensive wise, we've been playing all right. The Philly game, I mean, they just. We held Philly so long that with the turnovers and the defense just got tired and eventually just something had to happen, so. And then against y'all, I feel like we played pretty well on defense. We give us certain plays, but other than that, you know what I'm saying? We played pretty well. Offense gonna have to speed it up. To me, that's. That's how we. We moved on offense early. We. We speeded the game up. Use multiple wide receivers. I think McCaffrey needs to get into the game a little bit more. I think some of our little young tight ends need to get involved more, but definitely speed the game up and kind of come with some misdirection type. Right now, we kind of. We're kind of stagnant because if I just had to guess, when we have Robinson healthy, I would say our first down call to him is probably about 75%. We're going to run the ball on first down.
That's a little too predictable for me.
But like I said, that's just me off the top of my head. Just being a fan and watching, that's not statistically a stat.
[00:33:29] Speaker A: But.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: But yeah, just speed it up. Get. Get everybody more involved and then find ways to move McLaren. He ain't always gotta be the X or the Y. Let him be the L to R. Put his ass in the backfield sometimes. Just move his ass around, make sure he touches the ball. I feel like they don't use him as often as they should.
He could do multiple different things. To me, he's a. He's a good number two receiver in the NFL, you know, so. But he's our best receiver, so use him.
I just don't think we involve him as much as we should, so.
And then. Then with Brian Robinson, like, listen, he. Another one. He always hurt now, too. Every. Every game you see, he hurt. I don't understand what is going on out here, and I know it's the NFL, and you know what I'm saying, you getting hit week by week, but God damn, you just got back. You was on for two weeks.
You ain't played it two most damn near important games. You. I mean, so I don't know, man. They. They just got it, didn't. I don't know if it's something in Jaden's head. I don't know what it is, but you can't tell me that ain't hurt. So this rib, he had the same rib issue and lsu. So I don't know. I don't know what it is. But for me, like I said, I decided that against Philly after I seen the way he was playing. I just put Murray over there. We had. We had. What was that, 10 or 11 days in between that game and the Dallas game.
So I don't know if you. If you decide him after the Pittsburgh game. That's almost two weeks.
But then again, like I said, he. Like he said, he played decent against Pittsburgh. Against Philly, though, that mother was reading one side of the field and just basically just curling up, chilling. Oh, no, I know Philly secondary is supposed to be all right, but I ain't think they was like that.
[00:35:31] Speaker A: Well, I think that, you know, to kind of piggyback on what you said, I do think that you have to get your star receiver some touches, whether that means ending around or whether that means moving them around. And then I agree with you, you know, Brian Robinson, the health of him is. Is key.
And I think, you know, what you guys are going to have to get back to is rushing that ball, you know, and one of the best games y'all guys had this season against what is now the number one team in the NFC west, you guys had over 216 yards on the ground. And I know some of that was Jayden Daniels, but a lot of it was. Was Brian Robinson and Jeremy Nichols. You know, you didn't have Austin Eckler for that game, but still, to have that Russian attack that you guys had and then balance it out with 233 yards in the air, I think that's how you guys need to play.
You know, I think you guys got a little bit away from that, especially in the game against us.
Things didn't really go so well with the run, and it was abandoned. But nevertheless, in the second half, you guys threw the shit out of the ball and almost won that game.
And I think that's what you guys are going to have to get back to, to get back on track. The commanders, while they have a dynamic quarterback, I think that's one of the things that, that has to be utilized a little bit more.
Controlling the clock, you know, running the ball a little bit more effectively. Obviously you don't want to just run, run, run, run, run first down and then, and then have, you know, long third downs where you guys have to go for it on fourth down. Because prior to that Steelers game you had a perfect 4th down conversion record. And then you know that that fizzle and a downward spiral of that continue in the Philly game because they were again put in a situation where they had a long third and goal and you know, they said fuck it, are we going to go for it again on fourth down? So I think not putting yourself in bad position when it comes to having those third and longs or having to go for it on fourth down and not having an obvious play call either, because like you said on that goal line play where he curled up like in a fetal position, I think it has to be better play calling in those situational parts of the game.
But getting back on track to me for the Commanders involves opening up that rush. Whether you're adding some rpos in there, whether you're subbing out Brian Robinson and bringing in Jeremy Nichols, whether you're, you know, using the two headed monster, Eckler and Robinson a little bit more effectively. I, I do think that the rush definitely has to be thrown back in there for the commanders to get back on track. Help the young guy out. Help JD5 out, man, he hurt.
[00:39:05] Speaker B: Well, he need to help his damn show.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: So let's see here.
The Steelers gauntlet schedule. Is it trouble or treasure with the next five names?
[00:39:21] Speaker B: What is the gauntlet schedule? Please, please just run this gauntlet down to me.
[00:39:26] Speaker A: All right, so, so what I mean by gauntlet is the games that they have left with the degree of difficulty with the percentage of them winning or losing and also it being a gauntlet because of when they have to play these games. They play their next five at Cleveland, at Cincinnati, home against the Browns, at Philly and at Baltimore before they're playing the Chiefs on Christmas. And might I add, those last three games they play within 11 days of each other. They play Baltimore four days before playing the Chiefs on Christmas, and they see the Browns twice in two weeks. They play the Browns in Cleveland this Thursday night, travel to Cincinnati next Sunday and turn around and play the Browns again the following week. So it's a very It's a very tough schedule for the Steelers.
[00:40:32] Speaker B: And.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: And do you think it'll be trouble, or do you think it'll be treasure?
[00:40:38] Speaker B: So basically, y'all play the last three games of the season. Basically, is what you said.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: You said we play the last three games this season.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: Basically, that's it. Because the mother. Three games is so.
So y'all play the last three games. You place.
You play Cleveland.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: Well, technically, it's four games because we got one more Cincinnati game at the end of the season. But. But the Chiefs are the Christmas game, so that's highlighted because that's the game before the last game of the season. Right. Because we did not see any. We. The Baltimore game this past weekend was our first AFC north divisional game. We have not seen any other divisional opponent yet. So this. This gauntlet of the AFC north sprinkling in Philly, and the Chiefs starts this Thursday night.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: So y'all basically got four easy wins. And then we'll talk about the other three.
[00:41:34] Speaker A: Pretty much. I mean, if you wanna. If you wanna. You're.
[00:41:38] Speaker B: You're the one that just told me that Cleveland is ass.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: I did, brother. But I'm. I'm still gonna lean on the side that anything happens in the division. Just because the Cincinnati Bengals are out of playoff contingent don't mean they gonna lay down and lose to us.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: So J. Boo might throw for 350 on y'all.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: No, J. Boo gonna throw a couple interceptions. I know that.
[00:42:02] Speaker B: He still might throw for 350.
[00:42:04] Speaker A: He. He possibly will. He possibly will.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: I guess that's secondary. Good God. On my. I might be throwing for 2,230 on y'all. But anyway, that schedule don't sound too crazy to me now. That them three games, what was that? The Chiefs, the Eagles and the Ravens.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. And then let me add a caveat to that. The Eagles is December 15th.
The Baltimore Ravens is December 1st. And then Kansas City on Christmas.
[00:42:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, hey, man, listen. We played y'all. We played. We played the Eagles four days after we played y'all. I hear what you're saying, though. That's a tough. That's tough.
But the good thing is y'all got four bye weeks.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: Four by weeks. Yeah. You back?
[00:42:52] Speaker B: Yeah. My bad. On a serious note, y'all probably take care of Cleveland something special. I think they're. I think after last week, I think they officially done then. You can see it in there in their body language a little bit towards the end of that game. Cincinnati is tough just because they got.
They got Weapons and. But they gonna be another.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, we talked about this last week. Joe Burrows playing mvp. Ish. Even though his team sticks.
[00:43:22] Speaker B: But that's the thing. Is. Is the thing eventually is. Is who gonna say it at what time? You know what I'm saying? So they might just be in mode and just like, hey, you know, we're gonna pack it up in. I don't know, some teams get like that and some don't. So we had just had to see. I think Cincinnati would really be a key to, you know, how. How some of y'all season go. Because like we said, one is divisional, two, they definitely got weapons and see how they go. That. That three gang gauntlet a bitch that is tough. And you know, the Ravens gonna be looking. They gonna be looking to push up my pinafore. So I think y'all. I think y'all handle the Chiefs. I ain't necessarily sold on the Chiefs now. The Chiefs are the Chiefs.
So, I mean, you always gotta worry about them. But I mean, it ain't. It ain't like the Chiefs of the past where you like, damn, how the are we gonna beat these? You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't the same Chiefs, you know, but you still gotta put respect on that name.
But, yeah, this. This ain't. This ain't the Chiefs that, you know, with Tyreek Hill and everybody else, you know, even though I think. I think completely healthy, I think they could have some things going, you know, if they had Pacheco back. Even though Kareem Hunt running.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And Pacheco actually can come back this week.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And then you got Juju. If Juju do his thing, and then you got.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: For my fantasy hopes, right. For my fantasy playoff hopes, I hope that Pacheco does come back and plays well.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: And then you got. You got Hopkins, you know what I'm saying? So everybody could chip in and do a little piece, you know, they might be. They might end up being all right, I hope. I always like to see when Juju does something good, you know what I'm saying? Because I felt like where he was before, he just wasn't appreciated enough. So I really like, you know, Juju come out and do his thing a little bit.
[00:45:17] Speaker A: He played. He played for the Patriots, if you.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: Talking about the Patriots, you know, so that's.
[00:45:24] Speaker A: That's who I think you talking about, because, you know, when he played here, he was appreciated, but, you know, he also played with a dwindling Ben Roethlisberger, who couldn't throw the ball 15 yards without it pummeling down to the ground.
I honestly think, like I said, I see this, this, these last four games, or I'll even just sum it up to December. I see December being a month that we must come out on the win column.
We must come out with more wins and losses in December because obviously it affects our playoff picture where we play at. And I would love to see this team, you know, at eight wins right now. I'd love to see them get to 11, at least 11 wins, but also have the opportunity to play a playoff game here in Pittsburgh because it's been a very long time since that happened.
You know, that's not to say it guarantees us playoff success, but just for the sake of, you know, getting this fan base riled up some more and, you know, showing us that, you know, they can overachieve because we were only set to win a seven, eight games this season. Everybody counted us out. Everybody thought that the Steelers would be the fourth team in the AFC North.
You know, oh, how, what a tingle web we weave. Now we are sitting first in the AFC north division with the likelihood of holding on to that spot and possibly the next time we see Baltimore, it really being for some marble. So, you know, I don't know if we may be in a position that they were in last year where we may be sitting guys in that second play, I mean, AFC north game, but I kind of doubt that.
One, because of the magnitude of that game and two, because of the fact that we played the Chiefs the following week.
So I do think, you know, as long as we continue to play some good football, I like to see us go 41 in December. I would love to see us go 50 in December, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of these games we lost. I could see it either being on Christmas on the 21st at Baltimore or on the 15th in Philly. Those would be. Out of those five games we play in December. Those are the three that. That make me worry a little.
[00:48:36] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. I can see that. It makes sense.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: Moving right along, Is it actually time to start paying attention to the NBA yet? You know, is football season still going on? College football season is still among us. We got this 12 team College Football Playoff that, you know, everybody is chomping at the bit to watch. And we got college basketball coming back as well. So what do you think? Is it really time for us to start paying attention to the NBA or is it still too early?
[00:49:14] Speaker B: I mean, I always pay attention to the NBA even when the NFL is on just to kind of get a feel for, you know, who is what and you know, and what's going on, what players is making, you know, some, some improvements, things like that. Now is it full blown NBA season for me, no. But I definitely, you know, pay attention to enough to know, you know, if I had to, could I talk about something? You know, I mean like I said, just, just knowing certain things like the 76 is a trash.
Paul George is very overrated.
Things like that. Actually the fact that Norman Powell said it's addition by subtraction before the season even started and the Clippers are actually better without Paul George. But anyway, I digress.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:50:10] Speaker B: That's really Norma pal.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: It's also been without the claw. He played a liquor games yet.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: Exactly. And Norman Powell is driving like almost 25 a game at this point. Crazy, man. So. But, but yeah, I mean it's definitely time to watch it.
It's still so early to where you really can't like put your foot on it. Exactly. But you better believe that some GMs and are looking around right now and like, yo, something might have to shake Philly for as early as it is, something might have to shake and I don't think it's in beach so. Because it's not looking good out there. The Bucks are just starting to try to win that, that relationship. Well, I hate saying relationship, but you know what I'm saying that partnership between Lillard and Giannis just doesn't look. Even though I don't think Middleton is playing yet, but still, that don't look good. If you got, if you got, if you got those two, you should be winning.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: You should. But that team is old.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: I don't give a fuck if they old. Young.
[00:51:21] Speaker A: I mean, and I'm not even just talking about your two players. I'm talking your two star players. I'm talking about the nucleus, the role players. I mean they maybe got like three guys that you could consider role players that are young and two of them are guards. So you know, that kind of, that kind of defeats the purpose of, you know, having a young core, especially when it comes to playoff time. But historically when we talking about the Bucks, I mean talk about a bad start. Like these guys have never started off the season and not been in the top conversation. I mean they're usually winning a lot of games very early in the season and it just kind of continues to go that way towards the rest of the season. Whereas now they're trying to figure out how to even play together. This is what the second season we get to see Giannis and Dame and you know, people thought that this was going to be matrimony in heaven. You know, to be honest, I never really thought it was going to be that great. Granted, it sounds great on paper because you got Dame, who's one of the best shooters, not the best, but one of the best shooters in our time. And then you got Giannis, who's one of the best big men or just players, period, in the league. So yeah, I mean, on paper it sounded like it should work and this team should. Dame should put them over the top. But I mean, we've seen it. That that's not working. And then, you know, you add a veteran coach like Doc Rivers, I thought his ass was so, so why the hell they brought him back like his. He was terrible. Before he retired, before he went back to broadcasting, he was terrible. So, you know, I don't understand why they thought like, oh, we gonna get Doc Rivers and now we'll be a better team. No, that like it's Doc Rivers. Part of the problem is Doc Rivers. But you know, just to talk about the whole NBA, right. I do think that, I do think that with the addition of this, this NBA cup tournament, I do think it has brought more eyes to the NBA regular season to start. But me personally, I'm not, I don't give a about the NBA right now. I mean, this is the thick of the NFL season, this is the thick of the NCAA season where, you know, Heisman hopefuls are coming into fruition and you know, we're starting to see who could possibly be the NCAA champ at the end of the year. And that also brings me to something we can touch on after this. But the NBA has a lot of parity right now. You got your boy Embiid not wanting to play back to back games ever anymore. You got PG being added to that team. And I almost forgot that he was on that team because, you know, he's only played what, one game? I think.
[00:54:49] Speaker B: Nah, he played more than that.
[00:54:52] Speaker A: Well, one game that seems to be relevant.
And then you got, you know, the Lakers, who I follow because of LeBron James. But then the biggest story really is the saga of Bronny James.
The fact that this kid who, you know, if we would just want to call a spade a spade is in the league because of nepotism.
He's been moved to the G League and he's only playing G league home games.
I don't see that. I don't See the reason for that. And then I seen. I don't know if it might have been fake news, but I seen that the G League team had actually waived Ronnie James.
I didn't know that they could do that, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true because what the hell? Like, why is he playing for the G League team and he's only playing home games? That makes no sense to me. And then him signing the contract to be a part of the actual team, but not having the talent right now to actually compete for a role position.
It's laughable, but I do. There are a couple of. There are a couple of things that got my eyes open about the NBA right now, and that's the Celtics possibly repeating the Cavaliers are undefeated right now, which, you know, was a series in the. In the Eastern Conference that was pretty electric, except for the fact that the Celtics blew him away. They only won one game, I think. And then the other fact that.
[00:56:44] Speaker B: My.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: Man Ant man over there in the west coast, the Western Conference, has been shooting the ball pretty well to start the season. And them adding Julius Randle and them looking like still a playoff contender. That's. That's the only parody that I've technically paid attention to, but for me, it's a negative. I'm. I'm not really worried about the NBA right now. And to keep it even more.
The NBA cup was. Was very intriguing last year.
I need more games or I guess more parody to be really excited about it this year. I'm not really into it because it kind of seems like even though the players wanted that money, they don't really give a damn about the NBA Cup. It's all about the Larry O'Brien at the end of the day. Still.
[00:57:47] Speaker B: Let me, Let me.
I'm going to try to be very calm about this. Let's talk about little Brony.
His ass. His sorry ass. You know why he get all that? Cause of daddy, man. Come on, man. They talking about, oh, he sold out the G League game. Did you see where they played at?
Come on, man. They played the RPS.
It was 12 people in that joke.
Yeah, the Bama had four points.
[00:58:22] Speaker A: You said he had four points.
[00:58:25] Speaker B: Four points.
Four points. Come on, my heat. He is trash, bro. We all know that his daddy and what's called got him that contract. Maverick or whatever the hell his name is.
They got him that contract. He's hot garbage. And then when you mentioned that he Sucks, here come LeBron Sexuals.
How can you say he sucks? He has to develop. He could be a key piece too. If he's ever a key piece to the Lakers. It's a very different season than they want to have. He looks like he looks like he looks. I mean, I could go to some high school jumps out here. Now, obviously we play in the best place there is to pay high school basketball, but I could find probably 10 kids that would dog his ass right now. And they're seniors in high school, if not juniors in high school.
I don't know, man. I don't. Bronnie, that is cute. And somebody said to me, you know, it's a business decision and he has one of the highest jerseys. Okay. And like I said before, so did Len Sanity, and he's playing.
[00:59:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but Lynn Sanity was playing out of his mind.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: I get it. But we just talking about business wise. But he was. But Lynn Sanity right now is playing in, you know, Oka Waka Oko. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's playing in Taiwan or somewhere. I don't know.
But anyway. But yeah, Bronnie, I think the NBA does have parody at this point.
[01:00:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it does.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: Now, what do they lack? They lack a couple things. To me, a full blown, full out superstar. Now you have soup. You have, you have guys that are like right there, superstars. So like Gilders, I would have said he was on his way to be a superstar right now. He's a star. John Morant.
I don't know what to consider. Brunson.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I know that's, that's funny you say that because I mean, he's, he, he, he set, he set the, the league on fire in the playoffs last year. I mean, I feel like maybe we, and not just you and I, but maybe we should be talking about him more when it comes in terms of like being a face of the league or even not a face of league, but, you know, a superstar. And I, I don't think he's quite there yet, but, but I, I agree with you. You know, he, he's one of the guys mentioned when you think about the NBA right now.
[01:01:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just, it's not.
And there's a, the thing is too is there's a lot of players in the league right now. And I, I can't say I know the NBA like I did 10 years ago. I can't say that. It's a lot of dudes. You look up and you like, damn, who in the is this? But he's averaging 19, 20 points a game. I'm like, dang, I ain't Gonna lie, I ain't even know this was in the league, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just. I don't know, it feel like the NBA. I ain't, you know. And at a certain point, I think we got a little spoiled again because, you know, we got spoiled with the Jordan era. Even though, for real, for real, we was just like the later part of the Jordan errors. For real. For somewhat. But not well, but. And then we got blessed with, you know, with LeBron and Mellow and all that. And even like right, right before that, we got blessed with like Tim Duncan, Kevin Gardner, Allen Iverson, you know, Kobe Bryant.
So it was always like those next people to take over and it was like. And maybe because the players play a little bit longer now that it's because like LeBron, if he played two decades ago, he's not playing right now.
[01:02:33] Speaker A: Right.
[01:02:33] Speaker B: You know what I'm saying? So it's almost like, dang, you, you're still kind of living out.
You're still kind of living out Jordan with the Wizards right now, you know what I'm saying? Only I ain't gonna try to do that. LeBron, even though, you know, I'm not a huge fan, but I. Obviously he's still balling, you know what I mean? Like, but I'm just saying, like, it's, it's those later years and we're not used to players playing that long, so it's almost like you don't really draw to the next, the next man up, so.
[01:03:04] Speaker A: Right.
[01:03:04] Speaker B: And then it's like, you know, with Job being out and even now you, even this season, like, you seen Ja do like the little turnaround jumps and I think he had maybe like one dunk. Other than that, J, like been a little quiet for John Moran.
[01:03:18] Speaker A: Yeah, he's.
[01:03:20] Speaker B: He's hurt, you know, quite frequently. I mean, and then the rise of the foreigner. Not to be funny.
[01:03:29] Speaker A: No, for real. I mean, look at Wimby.
[01:03:31] Speaker B: Wimy. Yeah, Wimby.
Luca.
[01:03:36] Speaker A: Luca.
[01:03:37] Speaker B: Joker. Giannis.
[01:03:39] Speaker A: Yep, Giannis Shay.
[01:03:41] Speaker B: He's from Canada.
[01:03:43] Speaker A: Yeah, true.
[01:03:44] Speaker B: And people don't think that that means something, but it definitely means something.
[01:03:50] Speaker A: It does. And then look around at like, you know, American born superstars in the league right now.
Look at the. It's pretty slim when we talking about going up against these guys because, I mean, all the guys you just named or pretty much. I mean, look, you got a mvp, a two time mvp. One guy, you know, the other guy has just went to the NBA finals for his first time and he's been, you know, a perennial dick ride for a lot of the media since he's came in. And then who else did we name?
Che Guildis is on fire. He's looking projected to be have a possible MVP season this year. So, you know, it's gonna be hard.
[01:04:48] Speaker B: To get joke out of that, Joe. He averaging almost a triple double right now.
[01:04:52] Speaker A: Right, but that's what I'm saying. He sga, was leading MVP votes like maybe half of the season last year. And then it was like a sweet.
[01:05:00] Speaker B: Sweet.
[01:05:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like a sweep. He didn't get one vote. I think. I think he might have got. He should have maybe one vote.
[01:05:07] Speaker B: He should have won that. But my thing is too. And then also this. I think, you know, I'm not one to really like on some serious. Like really be on some racist type or some race type, but my thing is this, right? Think about this. When is the last time as a black man? And yes, I'm biracial, but I am a black man, right? When is the last time have you heard a black man say, my favorite NBA player is a white man?
Larry Bird, Maybe Dirk.
[01:05:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe Dirk. But there wasn't. I feel like there was more people that would have said another player than Dirk.
Black men, I'm talking about.
[01:05:53] Speaker B: Really? Like, who? I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like. But my thing is, it's like, what?
[01:05:59] Speaker A: And he could ball because Kobe Bryant was around then. So.
[01:06:03] Speaker B: Yeah, but.
[01:06:04] Speaker A: And I'm not saying that Dirk wasn't. I'm not saying Dirk wasn't like that. And he wasn't some black young man's favorite player at the time, but I think a lot more people at that time. If you're talking about Dirk in his prime, Dirk had to face Kobe a lot then.
[01:06:25] Speaker B: I get that, okay? And Bird had to face rolling legend.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: And then he didn't end up right.
[01:06:34] Speaker B: So I mean, I'm just saying, like, as much as good as Joker is right now, because I don't give a fuck what nobody say, Joker is the best player in the NBA right now. How many people. How many people are saying, oh, that's my favorite player.
It's hard for right now for people to see to me, and it's just me. I could be totally wrong. I don't have any analytics. I don't have. I think during that time when the NBA kind of made their next jump and the ratings was crazy, which I think was about like 10 to 12 years ago, was athletic young black men that were. That were kind of wearing what they wanted, but just kind of changed into, like they had to wear suits and all that to come in.
[01:07:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[01:07:21] Speaker B: Like, Like. Well, don't say Iverson, Eric, because he really never was the face of the league.
[01:07:26] Speaker A: He wasn't. But I think he had.
[01:07:28] Speaker B: He was very popular. Yes, he was very popular.
[01:07:31] Speaker A: But I was about to say, I think he had some of the biggest impact on what people wore because he didn't. He didn't give a fuck about wearing suits and shit. He was wearing durags, you know, big clothes, jerseys and like that. Yeah, it carried over with the younger players, which are LeBron's, which are Kobe's, which are D. Wade's and all of those other guys to where even Tim Duncan was wearing the grandma jeans and like that. Like, he wasn't.
[01:08:02] Speaker B: He still. He's. He still wears those. But him and Michael Jordan forgot the memo. But. But yeah, I think. I think because of those times. I think that young African American men. I. Let me take that. Black. Young black American men, because I don't. It's not a whole lot of us from Africa, but young black American men can't. They not jacking it, as they would say in New York. I'm not. They not. They not feeling that for the rest of the world, jacking is like feeling something. Whatever. Whatever. I just. But they're not feeling that. And it's like they almost don't know how to like. Like Joker is almost a step back to the late 80s 90s type of basketball player, even though he can step out and shoot the. Shoot the tray.
But like, it's like a lot of players don't know how to deal with that. Like, it's almost. They look at. They look at the Denver Nuggets is like boring. Like, it's like the Denver Nuggets are the old Utah Jag.
[01:09:12] Speaker A: Mm.
[01:09:13] Speaker B: But people talk about Utah, but like.
[01:09:16] Speaker A: Nobody really gives a right.
[01:09:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And this is like.
[01:09:20] Speaker A: Except for the Denver fans, right?
[01:09:23] Speaker B: Exactly. Exactly. And that's like your boy say he didn't even want to stay around for the. You know, throw candy at people and he wanted to go to home. But I. I could be wrong, Mo. But I just think that. I think that's the. The disconnect right now. And I think so bad we. We were trying to force jaw down people's throat poles.
And then the gun happens.
[01:09:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: And then it happens again and then it gets hurt. Then he comes back and has a little bit of.
[01:09:53] Speaker A: And no problem.
[01:09:55] Speaker B: He's Hurt again. And it's just like, I gotta get ready to take my son to the dentist in like 20 minutes. But then he's hurt again. And then it's just like, it's like, who is gonna be that next star for Americans and say, yeah, this is. This is who we follow now. This is who's gonna step up and be that. That dude. And this is like. I forgot who it was. Was talking about it. Like they wanted to see the NBA change up their all star game. Like stop selecting and all that and do. And go back to. Even though they didn't say go back to. Remember a long time ago they were doing like captain.
Well, no, when they did like the USA versus everybody else.
[01:10:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:42] Speaker B: So like go back to that. And this is like, if you really did that, like we get.
[01:10:47] Speaker A: We might get our ass.
[01:10:49] Speaker B: Spanky, Spiky, you some more. Luca Joker, Giannis.
I mean, bruh.
[01:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean some of the top guys in the league right now and they will whoop ass.
[01:11:07] Speaker B: Then you start to look at the USA team and this will really kind of.
[01:11:10] Speaker A: You put Wimby on that.
[01:11:12] Speaker B: Yeah, Wemby. Then you start to look at the USA team and think about this. LeBron. Gotta stop. 39.
[01:11:20] Speaker A: 39 year old LeBron. That's crazy.
[01:11:23] Speaker B: Dame probably gonna stop.
[01:11:25] Speaker A: He's 30 something.
[01:11:26] Speaker B: He's five. 36. 35.
[01:11:30] Speaker A: Oh, and wait, the other team got Giannis too.
[01:11:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I say Youngs. Yeah. I mean you, you start to look at the USA team, it's like, yeah, who.
[01:11:39] Speaker A: It's slim pickings. Like you got Andrew Edwards. Who could, could possibly be in that conversation?
Yeah, you got, you know, I mean Steph Curry, but he's. He's also old too.
[01:11:55] Speaker B: 37.
[01:11:57] Speaker A: So like, that's the, that's the issue. They're.
There are American stars there, but these guys are old.
[01:12:03] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. Mo, who is that? Who are the next. Now we all hoping it's Edwards. We all hoping it's Morant, but who is that?
[01:12:14] Speaker A: I tell you who is definitely not. It's definitely not old boy down in New Orleans. That didn't. That didn't. Man, I don't know what happened with him.
[01:12:24] Speaker B: He.
[01:12:24] Speaker A: He might be. I can't say he's the biggest bus because I. There were some really big busts in the NBA before.
[01:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah, he ain't. He ain't Kwame Brown.
[01:12:32] Speaker A: Yeah, don't let Kwame hear you say that.
[01:12:36] Speaker B: That we could fight in that little ass car. He Be in talking all that, that being that Toyota ter sale. Ain't nobody worried about you, Kwame.
[01:12:48] Speaker A: No, but I think him, you know, being the number one guy and, and what they thought he was going to be out of Duke and then the injuries, man, like not even just I can't even get to his play because you know, he don't play that often. So it's like dude, like what the fuck? Like we everybody put all of this draft stock and shit into Zion Williamson and then you know, he hasn't played a full season yet. But I mean to be honest, don't play full seasons anymore. So what do I know?
[01:13:23] Speaker B: You talk about you don't know what happened to Zion. You know what happened to Zion.
[01:13:29] Speaker A: Yeah, he skiski ski the power of.
[01:13:33] Speaker B: The P U. S. Why he didn't.
[01:13:37] Speaker A: Went down New Orleans and got that voodoo coochie on his ass, man.
[01:13:41] Speaker B: Hey, listen man, I thought.
Anyway, I ain't about to.
But yeah, when you know you going, you going to starlets and everywhere else you going to king of diamonds you going, you know, hey, you know, get what you asked for. But yeah, just to not to keep lingering on this jump. But yeah, I just don't know who that, who that next star is. So I think that's what's killing the NBA right now. Like I said, I don't have nothing on it, but I just, that was just something that came to my mind when I was thinking about. I was like, man, who is next?
[01:14:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. I agree with that. I think like you said, it's because I'm not going to take too much time on it because I wanted to get into one more thing before we do our two minute drill. Yeah, I think that the NBA does have to figure it out soon. And I do think it's hard to pick that next guy because you have a LeBron 39 still playing the way he's playing. You have Dame Lillard and Steph Curry who are, who are the older guys that are still playing lights out. So it's like. And I guess until these guys leave the game. Oh, and I'm sorry, kd, KD is another one who's an older guy that's still playing so at a high level. So it's like until these guys leave the game, unfortunately, we may not get that answer unless you know, this year. Because I mean, to be honest, even though Tatum is a baller and his stats show that he is and you know, he's getting the advertisements and endorsements and shit that he should after becoming a championship and even before that, I still can't even put Tatum up there because then you kind of have like an identity crisis because like, you know, everybody loves Jayson Tatum. But like, you know, as everybody got to see last season, Jalen Brown is a bona fide baller too. And they might not have won that championship, went on that championship run without him. So it's kind of like with what, who's going to be that next guy who's going to take that obvious big step forward? I would have loved it to be John Moran, but he's often injured now. I would love for it to be Anthony Edwards, but that's still yet to be seen.
He's got a, I mean he knocked off some guys last year pause, but it's got to be more convincing, I think as far as like making a jump.
And then, and then I think, and I think one of the things that I just alluded to, one of the things that would help solidify a face of the league is guys playing the whole season.
I mean you got players that don't play back to backs, you got players that get hurt and then be out for 30 something games. So it's like if dudes could stay healthy or if dudes could play through smaller injuries. I'm not saying you should play injured because you know, the game is different now and, and all of that, but if you can take care of your body and play at least 80 games, you know, or at least 75 games, 77 games, that would, that would make it very exciting for fans to see like, damn, you know, this nigga's like that. Play the whole season, season and bust ass, no homo. So I, I, I think that would help. But, but like you said, I, I'm not really sure who it is Tatum.
I know, but that, and that's why I said that, bro. It's like Tatum couldn't even get the nod from the warriors coach in the USA team. Bro just came off of a championship run and he wouldn't even get.
But, but before we get into the two minute drill, I wanted to touch on something that I seen earlier that on first take. So they were talking about college football and the College Football Playoff and one of the things that they brought to mind was the importance or the lack of importance, the future of the conference championship game.
Because with this new format of 12 teams playing.
Lane Kiffin was cited by media reporters after his last game and he was, he was saying that speaking to coaches around the ncaa, they don't really, they don't really see the conference championship game being as important because what say, you know, they get to the conference center, especially in the SEC places like the SEC and the Big. Was it the Big Ten or the Big 12? I think they have more Big Ten, but anyhow, they have scenarios where you play the conference championship and lose, and like Georgia, last year you're out and now you're not in the College Football Playoff. So it may be better to not even win the conference championship game. I mean, not even play the conference championship game. But we can't. They can't opt out of playing the game. But you understand what I mean when it comes to the parody of these situations, not necessarily faring well, especially in a conference like the SEC where they hold all the keys because they have, what, seven teams that could potentially be 10 wins going into a college football playoff, where, you know, you have a couple teams with two wins, I mean, two losses could end up being kicked out or even not even making the College Football Playoff.
So my question was. Before you answer, my question was, do you think that they go away from the conference championships and expand the College Football Playoff, or do you think that it's still just as important?
[01:20:21] Speaker B: I mean, we just got 12.
[01:20:25] Speaker A: I mean, can we interview just to add caveat. Stephen A. Said he thinks that 12 isn't even enough. They're going to move to 16.
And that in turn will, in turn will get rid of the college football, I mean, the conference championship game. Because just like the bowl games where they used to be important, now that the College Football Playoff is here, the bowl games aren't important anymore. So it's like, I guess, to the colleges, because kids don't even want to play them if it's not the national championship. Kids are opting out of playing in these bowl games. We've seen more college opt out of bowl games that aren't for the chip in the last couple years because they don't want to get hurt and fuck up their NFL stock.
[01:21:21] Speaker B: And that sounds cool, and that sounds good. That school still is getting about $7 million to playing that ball game. That school is still getting all the things that come with that bowl game to give to those kids. So whether it be PS5 or whoever sponsors that bowl game, they get all kind of gifts and toys and trickets and all that other shit, so to say, and.
And you get more practice time with your players. So for those that think that shit don't matter if you're really a coach or you're really a Fan of a team or something like that, that shit matters a lot. People that say that are just thinking about teams that play in the national championship.
[01:21:57] Speaker A: True.
[01:21:57] Speaker B: It's a reason why people fight to win six games. If you can only win six games, Maryland, if you listen to Coach Locksley, he said we playing for our lives right now. Now, they went out there and lost, but he still knew he needed those extra practices.
That helps recruiting. That helps get money into your school. That helps a lot of. So people that just say that, listen, Stephen A can kick rocks to me that once said, why don't a team kick it on third down? Because if they miss it, they can come back and kick it again on fourth down. Okay, so he act like he this big football now because somebody be speaking into his damn ear. That is illiterate. As when it comes to football. I don't want to hear none of that. He be talking about, man.
That's like me trying to talk basketball with his ass. Now, I can. I could. I could go ahead and spit some, but I ain't, you know what I'm saying? I. I know he know more than me about basketball than me. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, be just talking sometimes.
Yeah, I mean, that means something, man. And people could laugh and say this, that, and the third. And yeah, some of them kids dropping off, they gonna drive out and not playing them both games because they. They. They talented enough to where they. Their kids are going to play in the NFL and get ready for that. Every place ain't like that, man.
So to some of them players and coaches, they going from, you know, I'm saying, winning six, seven games. How you doing? Winning six, seven games and trying to make that next jump.
Some coaches come up. Some coaches come up. Hold on one.
[01:23:39] Speaker A: Since you're living, can we park here?
[01:23:41] Speaker B: Huh?
Who? You're the unique hit house. I'm the same 34.
Hello?
[01:23:54] Speaker A: Yeah, you still there?
[01:23:56] Speaker B: You still hear me?
[01:23:57] Speaker A: I can't hear you.
You on the WI fi. I mean, you on the Bluetooth.
Can you hear me?
[01:24:06] Speaker B: Hold on.
[01:24:07] Speaker A: Can you hear me now?
I can't hear you. All right, hold on.
I'll end it and come back and see what happened.